tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post721249474249067886..comments2024-03-29T04:08:29.741-04:00Comments on Pam's English Cottage Garden: Invasive And Aggressive Plants Are Not The SamePam's English Gardenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01359787694149174369noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-80394737871469177982010-06-15T23:26:36.814-04:002010-06-15T23:26:36.814-04:00Some very thought-provoking comments! Sorry I didn...Some very thought-provoking comments! Sorry I didn't respond to all individually. I will visit your blog soon. Thanks to everyone! P. xPam's English Gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359787694149174369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-83304390006458213092010-06-14T17:07:20.521-04:002010-06-14T17:07:20.521-04:00Very interesting & eye opening post about the ...Very interesting & eye opening post about the difference between the two varities invasive or not.<br /><br />Thanks Pam for stopping at my blog.<br />BTW that picture you saw is Corn plant trying to dig more roots into the ground ,<br /><br />Keep it a secret please :)<br /><br />All the best.Mad about Gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12530512134219965150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-20637489173922633342010-06-14T14:39:14.643-04:002010-06-14T14:39:14.643-04:00I like your invasives/aggressives explanation - mu...I like your invasives/aggressives explanation - much more articulate (and accurate) than my "one man's weed is another man's wildflower" philosophy! Has the pygmy goat been any help with multiflora destruction? Will enjoy reading your blog! - Zoe @ pearled earthZoe Tilley Posterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17450749264062058397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-55697397955291358442010-06-14T12:48:22.771-04:002010-06-14T12:48:22.771-04:00Dear Pam, What a happy accident has brought me to ...Dear Pam, What a happy accident has brought me to your weblog. <br /><br />I find the idea fascinating that you are attempting to combine the best of a quintessential English country garden into a wonderful American landscape.<br /><br />This posting has much sound advice. Oh if only one had been warned about so many things when one started gardening, since, as you say, dealing with invasive plants can be very tricky indeed once they get a hold.<br /><br />Whatever, the glimpses I have had of your garden show me that you have created a wonderfully romantic and beautiful spot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-55272193723794273392010-06-14T09:53:12.356-04:002010-06-14T09:53:12.356-04:00Great Post Pam! I feel for your hubby having to de...Great Post Pam! I feel for your hubby having to deal with all those thorny invasive plants. I have to do the same with many of those plus Bishop's Weed. The Russian Olive is very bad... it is said that you should not let it go to seed for the birds will spread it. I like aggressive plants and need them to survive the sea of Bishop's Weed but you are right invasive is quite different. Your arbor is so lovely!! ;>)Carolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01067132532095325169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-63419321344994166682010-06-14T08:59:01.649-04:002010-06-14T08:59:01.649-04:00Invasive or aggressive, I enjoyed the flowers you ...Invasive or aggressive, I enjoyed the flowers you have here. They are indeed lovely.Autumn Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00818422090556602092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-22212184912074153722010-06-13T23:27:57.722-04:002010-06-13T23:27:57.722-04:00That was very interesting. I hadn't really th...That was very interesting. I hadn't really thought about the difference. Whenever I find a plant taking over, I try to get rid of it completely because they are sneaky little devils. It's nice to see you are able to use it's beauty on your arbor, sort of the old saying if you can't beat em, join em. I am always amazed when I see certain plants being sold in the nurseries and I know they are invasive in some areas. By the way your gardens look lovely, invasive or not you seem to have tamed them well.<br />ps. I changed your address on my blogroll. thanks for the heads up on that.teresahttp://blog.gardenshoesonline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-27679271366463410352010-06-13T23:27:25.756-04:002010-06-13T23:27:25.756-04:00That was very interesting. I hadn't really th...That was very interesting. I hadn't really thought about the difference. Whenever I find a plant taking over, I try to get rid of it completely because they are sneaky little devils. It's nice to see you are able to use it's beauty on your arbor, sort of the old saying if you can't beat em, join em. I am always amazed when I see certain plants being sold in the nurseries and I know they are invasive in some areas. By the way your gardens look lovely, invasive or not you seem to have tamed them well.<br />ps. I changed your address on my blogroll. thanks for the heads up on that.teresahttp://blog.gardenshoesonline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-13170233053430034942010-06-13T23:27:03.780-04:002010-06-13T23:27:03.780-04:00That was very interesting. I hadn't really th...That was very interesting. I hadn't really thought about the difference. Whenever I find a plant taking over, I try to get rid of it completely because they are sneaky little devils. It's nice to see you are able to use it's beauty on your arbor, sort of the old saying if you can't beat em, join em. I am always amazed when I see certain plants being sold in the nurseries and I know they are invasive in some areas. By the way your gardens look lovely, invasive or not you seem to have tamed them well.<br />ps. I changed your address on my blogroll. thanks for the heads up on that.teresahttp://blog.gardenshoesonline.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-58070983681374970862010-06-12T19:30:20.751-04:002010-06-12T19:30:20.751-04:00Good information, Pam! I think I might have some ...Good information, Pam! I think I might have some nasty stuff around here that I need to pull out. I am still fighting those daisies. Argh.Chloe mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265196480664185330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-32243190443011523782010-06-10T22:17:22.016-04:002010-06-10T22:17:22.016-04:00What an excellent explanation of the difference be...What an excellent explanation of the difference between invasive and aggressive plants, Pam! Should be very helpful to many people. <br />I never know what to think about R. multiflora; the bees and birds seem to adore it, so for that reason it's a good thing. It's also used as the rootstock for many grafted roses, which is yet another reason why it has spread far and wide (while the more choice roses that were grafted withered and died, of course!) <br />The bane of my existence is goutweed/bishopsweed, which is just about the worst plant in the world next to purple loosestrife. I keep encouraging other people to boycott garden centres that sell it, or at the very least to NOT let it flower and set seed. It's a terrible plant. I don't think it's a wellbehaved one anywhere in the world, to be honest.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107236871193698777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-29241766828454519702010-06-10T19:40:28.862-04:002010-06-10T19:40:28.862-04:00Too true about what is invasive in one area is a l...Too true about what is invasive in one area is a lamb in another. I can't keep barberry alive (should I be ashamed of that?) to save my life. <br /><br />Christine in AlaskaChristine B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08335289758548637661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-27409151365835257892010-06-10T05:55:14.054-04:002010-06-10T05:55:14.054-04:00What a lovely woodland walk! I have quite a few ag...What a lovely woodland walk! I have quite a few aggressive hardy geraniums especially mourning widow, and I must have pulled up 100+ large plants this spring in England.Serves me right for not deadheading last year! Best wishes from Kent, Betty xcountry rose cornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05426540354950003912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-7028402068354995042010-06-10T02:19:49.864-04:002010-06-10T02:19:49.864-04:00Pam,
It's great to see your garden in spring. ...Pam,<br />It's great to see your garden in spring. It's lovely. I really like your arbor. Can't wait to see more... Cheers!Avishttp://www.CityDiggity.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-37624039726520513142010-06-10T00:13:59.246-04:002010-06-10T00:13:59.246-04:00Thanks for that post, Pam. This really is worth re...Thanks for that post, Pam. This really is worth repeating. I admire you for making room for other plants and hope things you like will grow just as aggressively as some of the nasties.Town Mousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09777461911856383480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-29765698066787931682010-06-09T23:10:08.502-04:002010-06-09T23:10:08.502-04:00Hi Pam, I'm also a transplant from England!
G...Hi Pam, I'm also a transplant from England!<br /><br />Great post! It is important to understand the difference between invasive and aggressive. Here, our invasive plants are things like Scotch and French broom, Vinca major, and Pampas grass. I grew up with Scotch broom! But here I understand the damage it does. We have some aggressive weeds too, that require diligence to keep in check, but the invasives, if we don't keep them in check, quickly smother our native plants.<br /><br />I think as gardeners it's our responsibility to be aware of plants that are likely to escape cultivation in our respective regions, and encourage our garden centers NOT to sell them.Curbstone Valley Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06714297348566721344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-3058736567916492882010-06-09T22:15:43.893-04:002010-06-09T22:15:43.893-04:00Great post Pam. Here, we have the stupid Japanese ...Great post Pam. Here, we have the stupid Japanese honeysuckle and may have the multiflora rose, but I removed it long ago. The rosette disease is awful, and I feel tremendous sympathy for anyone who has it in their garden.<br /><br />I own quite a few aggressives, but not so many invasives.~~DeeDee @ Red Dirt Ramblingshttp://www.reddirtramblings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-14426532376010455252010-06-09T20:52:47.202-04:002010-06-09T20:52:47.202-04:00Pam, what a great post. I often think about the di...Pam, what a great post. I often think about the difference between invasive and aggressive as having to do with how the plants spread. To me a plant is invasive if it escapes a person's yard and spreads to his/her neighbor's yard, or to the park down the street, or to creeks, etc. And while it might not be that person's plant that was the culprit, when you see "rogue" plants in a wildlife area or park and they shouldn't be there, those are invasive plants. Aggressive ones mean that you have to get them out of your other flowers' spots, but they are controllable.<br /><br />Good work getting through all that work!Meredithhttp://www.greatstems.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-65083962452389810912010-06-09T20:46:06.838-04:002010-06-09T20:46:06.838-04:00Hi Pam, my first visit to your new house! Somehow ...Hi Pam, my first visit to your new house! Somehow i thought grasses or most plants die during winter, which i found is not correct. We have more invasives and aggressives in the tropics because they can continue growing rain or shine, no winter to threaten them. They also remain good even during long dry seasons, they are really pests in the farms.Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06044386271018560595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-63940344632060371712010-06-09T20:43:46.827-04:002010-06-09T20:43:46.827-04:00Hi Pam,
I have been wondering what makes a plant c...Hi Pam,<br />I have been wondering what makes a plant considered invasive as opposed to just aggressive. I have some things I call, "spready" in pots. My octopus bellflower is probably consisdered aggressive, but it would take over the whole bed and grow right in, under, and over other plants. I am still pulling it out of an area I decided I didn't want it in, and am keeping it in check where I am letting it grow.<br /><br />I was disappointed when purple loosestrife became illegal to grow here in Nebraska. I had some in a bed at church, and it wasn't even aggressive, but I was told the seeds get into the waterways. I even offered to keep it deadheaded, but they said to dig it out.<br /><br />Another subject I want to learn more about is the difference between native plants and wildflowers. I'm thinking not all natives are wildflower, and not all wildflowers one can grow are native to their areas. Did I get that right?<br /><br />Thanks for your nice comment on my blog. I love what you said about an aptly place watering can covering over a multitude of sins/bare spots. ;o)Corner Gardener Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10631500918579405664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-46633265087534449202010-06-09T15:29:12.022-04:002010-06-09T15:29:12.022-04:00Hello Pam,
This is an excellent post! I love how...Hello Pam,<br /><br />This is an excellent post! I love how you explained the difference and that aggressive plants to have a place in the garden.Noelle Johnson https://www.blogger.com/profile/12198931083102476324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-25583174217410105692010-06-09T14:55:19.539-04:002010-06-09T14:55:19.539-04:00Jo - You are so right about native plants being be...Jo - You are so right about native plants being better for wildlife. The invasives don't provide the food the native wildlife need.<br /><br />Cyndy - Thanks for visiting. I stopped over at your blog, Gardening Asylum (love the title), and enjoyed it very much!<br /><br />Gippsy - It's very interesting that your problem plant is related to my problem plant!<br /><br />Ruth - Thanks for the information about Rose Rosette Disease. I'll look out for it. It's very sad. I hope you don't lose any more roses.<br /><br />Diane - I often find that the topics on other people's posts coincide with something I'm thinking about, or doing, at the time I read them. Amazing ... and fun!<br /><br />Thanks everyone for visiting!Pam's English Gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01359787694149174369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-49251706660603617562010-06-09T14:01:52.285-04:002010-06-09T14:01:52.285-04:00Pam, it's really interesting that you posted t...Pam, it's really interesting that you posted this today, because just this very morning, for the first time ever, I pulled a plant out of my garden. <br /><br />I'm not sure if it would be the invasive or aggressive variety, but it was growing (sneakily by underground roots) and getting into my other plants. <br /><br />This plant is called a anaphalis or 'pearl everlasting'. It was one of the few plants left on our property when we moved here. <br /><br />I felt kind of bad pulling it out, but I'm glad I did. I can see that the roots are going to need a little more attention from me before they are all gone. <br /><br />Anyway this post was timely for me and very interesting! <br /><br />Cheers.Diane at My Cottage Gardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17855098457081134408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-88980514195919387292010-06-09T08:24:19.569-04:002010-06-09T08:24:19.569-04:00Hi, Pam, Not only are the MultiFlora Roses invasi...Hi, Pam, Not only are the MultiFlora Roses invasive, but around here, they are spreading Rose Rosette Disease. Last year, I had to destroy 4 of the (non-multiflora) roses I had planted and I am fearful of what this year will bring for my other roses. I think multifuloras are pretty in bloom, but now they just make me sad. I dread loosing more roses.<br /><br />Thanks for your post! :)Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273632887177263449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2608010804192268779.post-29687646546629722272010-06-09T08:15:10.387-04:002010-06-09T08:15:10.387-04:00Hi Pam, I can relate to the battle of invasives th...Hi Pam, I can relate to the battle of invasives that are never quite 'all the way gone' Blackberry is my bane. As you say, these plants can be no problem at all in other parts of the country/world, but blackberry is a big environmental problem here. I guess it is not a coincidence that your rosa and my blackberry are related though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com